should they use the debt ceiling? >> ultimately, short. two tools that are very real and very powerful coming up. obama has tried to demonize the debt ceiling. okay. set it back with a condition. okay democrats in the senate. you have not passed a budget in three years. the reason why the democrats have control of the senate is that harry reid has said democratic senators in the witness protection program with ever -- whenever budget issues come up. twenty democrats are up for election in 2014. half of them should not be coming back of the continue to vote with obama on tax and spend crazy debt policies which is what they have been doing. i think it is very important for the american people to see what the senate has not done and to force them to act but that. gerri: you sure can't act -- argue with that. the senate has not passed a budget and 1,361 days. let me get a comment. it would stop pay to members of congress if they don't do some of these things, if they don't get a budget resolution. you in favor of that? >> i think it's a good i